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		<title>By: Here&#8217;s What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Defaulted on Its Debt - American Solution</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2011/05/26/the-day-the-united-states-defaulted-on-treasury-bills/#comment-12419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Defaulted on Its Debt - American Solution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Treasury couldn&#8217;t get the checks out in time on such short notice. As Donald Marron of the Tax Policy Center explains, the Treasury got swamped with an inordinately high demand for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The Last Time the U.S. Defaulted on Its Debt? &#124; Politicaldog101.Com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Treasury couldn&#8217;t get the checks out in time on such short notice. As Donald Marron of the Tax Policy Center explains, the Treasury got swamped with an inordinately high demand for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: stanislaus2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deficits do not end in debt.  When Treasury seeks to find money for deficit spending of Congress, it issues securities, which are IOU&#039;s with a promise to repay the holder the principal plus interest at a specified future date. These securities are sold at public auction to banks. Treasury gets its money from the banks, the banks get the securities (like bills). Treasury has a debt to the banks. The banks also have their reserves drop. The Federal Reserve comes to restore the banks&#039; reserves and buys these securities from them with fiat money it creates on the spot out of nothing. Fiat money, which the U.S. has had since 1971,  is backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the United States. Money just is tokens of debt obligations in units of account (dollars) between parties in the economy. Its value relative to goods and services is established by countless negotiations between parties as to prices to sell and buy goods and services. That is why nothing limits how much or when it can be created. However, Congress limits how much the government can spend. Without authorization the government cannot spend its money. The act of buying the securities redeems the debt of the United States to the banks, because the  Federal Reserve (the Fed) is an agency within the government and it also used exclusive power of the government to create money, in the purchase. The Fed thus can redeem any debt of the United States with fiat money. 

   If the security is not mature when bought, it can be sold by the Fed to control inflation, again at public auction.  Otherwise the Fed can replace the mature securities with new securities from  the Treasury, as a straight across swap and hold these for sale to others. It is important to distinguish the debt of the United States to certain banks because of Treasury&#039;s purchase, and the ongoing obligations implied in the securities to repay at maturity. A security is like a $100 bill with a redemption date on it. It can serve more than one debt obligation, just as a $100 dollar bill can. If the Fed holds it at maturity, it does not have to be paid after having bought it.  It is the government as much as Treasury. It would be the same as the Treasury holding the mature security. It would not pay itself.

The Fed is a creation of the Congress, and hence is government. The Fed is so situated within the government as to be independent of political control. Still it must report to Congress several times a year. To achieve this independence, it is prohibited from buying Treasury securities directly from the Treasury.  It receives no appropriations from Congress but gets its money for operations from transaction fees on purchases of securities of 6% of the interest. It&#039;s executives are appointed by the President but for terms that last beyond the terms of the President.

So, deficit spending produces no national debt at the Fed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deficits do not end in debt.  When Treasury seeks to find money for deficit spending of Congress, it issues securities, which are IOU&#8217;s with a promise to repay the holder the principal plus interest at a specified future date. These securities are sold at public auction to banks. Treasury gets its money from the banks, the banks get the securities (like bills). Treasury has a debt to the banks. The banks also have their reserves drop. The Federal Reserve comes to restore the banks&#8217; reserves and buys these securities from them with fiat money it creates on the spot out of nothing. Fiat money, which the U.S. has had since 1971,  is backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the United States. Money just is tokens of debt obligations in units of account (dollars) between parties in the economy. Its value relative to goods and services is established by countless negotiations between parties as to prices to sell and buy goods and services. That is why nothing limits how much or when it can be created. However, Congress limits how much the government can spend. Without authorization the government cannot spend its money. The act of buying the securities redeems the debt of the United States to the banks, because the  Federal Reserve (the Fed) is an agency within the government and it also used exclusive power of the government to create money, in the purchase. The Fed thus can redeem any debt of the United States with fiat money. </p>
<p>   If the security is not mature when bought, it can be sold by the Fed to control inflation, again at public auction.  Otherwise the Fed can replace the mature securities with new securities from  the Treasury, as a straight across swap and hold these for sale to others. It is important to distinguish the debt of the United States to certain banks because of Treasury&#8217;s purchase, and the ongoing obligations implied in the securities to repay at maturity. A security is like a $100 bill with a redemption date on it. It can serve more than one debt obligation, just as a $100 dollar bill can. If the Fed holds it at maturity, it does not have to be paid after having bought it.  It is the government as much as Treasury. It would be the same as the Treasury holding the mature security. It would not pay itself.</p>
<p>The Fed is a creation of the Congress, and hence is government. The Fed is so situated within the government as to be independent of political control. Still it must report to Congress several times a year. To achieve this independence, it is prohibited from buying Treasury securities directly from the Treasury.  It receives no appropriations from Congress but gets its money for operations from transaction fees on purchases of securities of 6% of the interest. It&#8217;s executives are appointed by the President but for terms that last beyond the terms of the President.</p>
<p>So, deficit spending produces no national debt at the Fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts of 2011 &#171; Donald Marron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Posts of 2011 &#171; Donald Marron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The day the United States defaulted on Treasury bills (In 1979, not 2011) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Toshia Cort</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2011/05/26/the-day-the-united-states-defaulted-on-treasury-bills/#comment-7660</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toshia Cort]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great publish, i sure&#124; will likely be visiting some other time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great publish, i sure| will likely be visiting some other time</p>
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		<title>By: Denae Mazuo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denae Mazuo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[been following your blog for 3 days now and i must say i am beginning to like your post. and now how do i sign up for your blog?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been following your blog for 3 days now and i must say i am beginning to like your post. and now how do i sign up for your blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Elodia Medicus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elodia Medicus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Work]]></description>
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		<title>By: secretbonus1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[US Defaults: 1790, 1841-1842,1873-1884,1919(multiple states defaulted) 1933 (denied people the ability to receive their payment in gold), and 1971 (owed around 40,000 tonnes of gold but only had 7200 and they defaulted on promises to pay in gold and silver). They also defaulted on some treasury bills in 1979. 

1842 was part of a major economic depression period for the USA. It was shortly after President Andrew Jackson terminated the USA’s central bank, the equivalent of today’s Federal Reserve. The USA government, and not an independent bank, became the custodian of the USA funds. It didn’t work out so well then. If the USA Dollar loses its status as the world’s reserve currency, it probably won’t work out so well for the either Federal Reserve or the USA economy this time either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US Defaults: 1790, 1841-1842,1873-1884,1919(multiple states defaulted) 1933 (denied people the ability to receive their payment in gold), and 1971 (owed around 40,000 tonnes of gold but only had 7200 and they defaulted on promises to pay in gold and silver). They also defaulted on some treasury bills in 1979. </p>
<p>1842 was part of a major economic depression period for the USA. It was shortly after President Andrew Jackson terminated the USA’s central bank, the equivalent of today’s Federal Reserve. The USA government, and not an independent bank, became the custodian of the USA funds. It didn’t work out so well then. If the USA Dollar loses its status as the world’s reserve currency, it probably won’t work out so well for the either Federal Reserve or the USA economy this time either.</p>
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		<title>By: A deal, not a solution &#171; The Presteblog</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2011/05/26/the-day-the-united-states-defaulted-on-treasury-bills/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A deal, not a solution &#171; The Presteblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] ceiling is a big deal when every time the federal government bumps up against it, it gets raised. Donald Marron points out that the U.S. defaulted on successive weeks in 1979: Terry Zivney and Richard Marcus [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ceiling is a big deal when every time the federal government bumps up against it, it gets raised. Donald Marron points out that the U.S. defaulted on successive weeks in 1979: Terry Zivney and Richard Marcus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Federal debt default? So what? It happened before — in 1979 &#171; David McElroy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Federal debt default? So what? It happened before — in 1979 &#171; David McElroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] If you&#8217;ve been listening to any news lately, you know that Financial Armageddon looms if the politicians in D.C. don&#8217;t suddenly agree to a plan to raise the debt ceiling. Pretty much everybody agrees that such a thing is unthinkable. The only problem is that it happened 32 years ago &#8212; and it wasn&#8217;t a big deal. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you&#8217;ve been listening to any news lately, you know that Financial Armageddon looms if the politicians in D.C. don&#8217;t suddenly agree to a plan to raise the debt ceiling. Pretty much everybody agrees that such a thing is unthinkable. The only problem is that it happened 32 years ago &#8212; and it wasn&#8217;t a big deal. [...]</p>
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