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		<title>By: Neda Duttinger</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-5480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neda Duttinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fantastic piece of writing, I located your web page checking google for a similar topic and arrived to this. I couldnt get to much alternative material on this post, so it was wonderful to discover this one. I probably will end up being back to look at some other articles that you have another time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic piece of writing, I located your web page checking google for a similar topic and arrived to this. I couldnt get to much alternative material on this post, so it was wonderful to discover this one. I probably will end up being back to look at some other articles that you have another time.</p>
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		<title>By: There Was A Part Of That Health Care Bill That Didn&#8217;t Get Much Attention &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-3234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[There Was A Part Of That Health Care Bill That Didn&#8217;t Get Much Attention &#171; Around The Sphere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 10:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] That step raises some interesting questions about the costs of the current system (see this post), possible benefits of the current system (some colleges and universities appear to prefer working with private lenders), and the potential budget savings of cutting out the middle man (which appear to be large but somewhat overstated in official budget analyses). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That step raises some interesting questions about the costs of the current system (see this post), possible benefits of the current system (some colleges and universities appear to prefer working with private lenders), and the potential budget savings of cutting out the middle man (which appear to be large but somewhat overstated in official budget analyses). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craigie</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-2300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craigie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the congressional scoring process does not fully measure the cost of bearing financial risk, such as that from managing direct loans or loan guarantees.  The key point is actually that this &quot;error&quot; is more pronounced for guaranteed loan program than for direct loan.

What if a &quot;Senator Pro-DL&quot; (none actually exists) asked CBO to perform a similar &quot;Gregg&quot; tolerance analysis for FFELP? Then the hypothetical savings for switching from 100% FFEL to 100% DL could be $150 billion. The financing risks, &quot;market risks,&quot; operational risks, compliance risks, oversight risks and enforcement risks of FFELP, from the government&#039;s standpoint, are far more significant than in DL, and FFELP still represents the majority of new loans.

Thus an apples-to-apples Gregg request would have included a far-end FFELP market risk comparison while noting that legislative changes over the past 15 years have quietly shifted large parts of the market risk from lenders to taxpayers, none of which has CBO ever agreed to estimate.  Index risk is only one example.  Look into the quiet change -- tacked on to an SSDI/SSI reform bill at the end of 1999, for example, that shifted interest rate hedging costs from lenders to the American taxpayer.  CBO explicitly refused to score the cost.  This was less than 15 months after the Higher Ed Amendments of 1998, yet there were no hearings.  The student groups don&#039;t understand this stuff and the college associations don&#039;t care, as long as their clients get their funding.  In any case, scoring that change would add significant cost to the FFEL program.

The Gregg &#039;scoring&#039; is one of a long line of &quot;special,&quot; i.e., one-sided, requests sent to GAO and CBO over the years. By law and general practice, when GAO and CBO receive a request from a Member of Congress, they not only do not explore issues outside of the parameters of that request, they usually try to narrow it even further, because they are busy and also &quot;human,&quot; i.e., lazy. The bottom line is that the Federal Credit Reform Act (FCRA) is startlingly similar to the GAAP approach used by financial services corporations such as banks. The Gregg approach is not compliant with either but its most significant flaw is that it does not use an objective baseline, for example, 100% FFEL. Comparing a &quot;risk-rated&quot; 100% DL to a current FCRA FFEL (70%)/DL (30%) is a red herring. Compare it to a &quot;risk-rated&quot; 100% FFEL and you will find more than $100 billion in savings from shifting to DL.  The default rate on student loans is low, even after 10 or 15 years into repayment.
 
The Gregg analysis is reminiscent of a GAO request several years back that ignored payments of principal and focused on cash-accounting-based flows of interest -- from years not even associated with the loans.  Of course it made direct lending look bad, as that was the purpose of the exercise.  The whole rationale behind lending, whether it is GMAC, the first national bank, the neighborhood credit union, or direct lending is accrual accounting.  For some reason people&#039;s common sense flies out the window when the word &quot;government&quot; is mentioned.  What makes CBO&#039;s scoring of the Casey, Greg and Sallie Mae proposals even more shocking is that CBO always had a rule against scoring any bill that has not even passed a committee somewhere in either the House or the Senate.  They don&#039;t score hypothetical legislation.  None of these proposals were ever introduced as bills, never mind passing a committee.  Apparently the opponents of direct lending are so powerful that they can get the rules bent.  Look a little further and you will find the most powerful opponents aren&#039;t the banks -- FFEL isn&#039;t really a &quot;private sector&quot;-driven approach.  It is the state governments -- 40 of whom operate a state lending operation or a state guaranty agency, or both.  In comparison to the more high-tech federal operations, the state agencies are quite inefficient, antiquated, and non-compliant, as we saw with the so-called, 9.5 scandal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the congressional scoring process does not fully measure the cost of bearing financial risk, such as that from managing direct loans or loan guarantees.  The key point is actually that this &#8220;error&#8221; is more pronounced for guaranteed loan program than for direct loan.</p>
<p>What if a &#8220;Senator Pro-DL&#8221; (none actually exists) asked CBO to perform a similar &#8220;Gregg&#8221; tolerance analysis for FFELP? Then the hypothetical savings for switching from 100% FFEL to 100% DL could be $150 billion. The financing risks, &#8220;market risks,&#8221; operational risks, compliance risks, oversight risks and enforcement risks of FFELP, from the government&#8217;s standpoint, are far more significant than in DL, and FFELP still represents the majority of new loans.</p>
<p>Thus an apples-to-apples Gregg request would have included a far-end FFELP market risk comparison while noting that legislative changes over the past 15 years have quietly shifted large parts of the market risk from lenders to taxpayers, none of which has CBO ever agreed to estimate.  Index risk is only one example.  Look into the quiet change &#8212; tacked on to an SSDI/SSI reform bill at the end of 1999, for example, that shifted interest rate hedging costs from lenders to the American taxpayer.  CBO explicitly refused to score the cost.  This was less than 15 months after the Higher Ed Amendments of 1998, yet there were no hearings.  The student groups don&#8217;t understand this stuff and the college associations don&#8217;t care, as long as their clients get their funding.  In any case, scoring that change would add significant cost to the FFEL program.</p>
<p>The Gregg &#8216;scoring&#8217; is one of a long line of &#8220;special,&#8221; i.e., one-sided, requests sent to GAO and CBO over the years. By law and general practice, when GAO and CBO receive a request from a Member of Congress, they not only do not explore issues outside of the parameters of that request, they usually try to narrow it even further, because they are busy and also &#8220;human,&#8221; i.e., lazy. The bottom line is that the Federal Credit Reform Act (FCRA) is startlingly similar to the GAAP approach used by financial services corporations such as banks. The Gregg approach is not compliant with either but its most significant flaw is that it does not use an objective baseline, for example, 100% FFEL. Comparing a &#8220;risk-rated&#8221; 100% DL to a current FCRA FFEL (70%)/DL (30%) is a red herring. Compare it to a &#8220;risk-rated&#8221; 100% FFEL and you will find more than $100 billion in savings from shifting to DL.  The default rate on student loans is low, even after 10 or 15 years into repayment.</p>
<p>The Gregg analysis is reminiscent of a GAO request several years back that ignored payments of principal and focused on cash-accounting-based flows of interest &#8212; from years not even associated with the loans.  Of course it made direct lending look bad, as that was the purpose of the exercise.  The whole rationale behind lending, whether it is GMAC, the first national bank, the neighborhood credit union, or direct lending is accrual accounting.  For some reason people&#8217;s common sense flies out the window when the word &#8220;government&#8221; is mentioned.  What makes CBO&#8217;s scoring of the Casey, Greg and Sallie Mae proposals even more shocking is that CBO always had a rule against scoring any bill that has not even passed a committee somewhere in either the House or the Senate.  They don&#8217;t score hypothetical legislation.  None of these proposals were ever introduced as bills, never mind passing a committee.  Apparently the opponents of direct lending are so powerful that they can get the rules bent.  Look a little further and you will find the most powerful opponents aren&#8217;t the banks &#8212; FFEL isn&#8217;t really a &#8220;private sector&#8221;-driven approach.  It is the state governments &#8212; 40 of whom operate a state lending operation or a state guaranty agency, or both.  In comparison to the more high-tech federal operations, the state agencies are quite inefficient, antiquated, and non-compliant, as we saw with the so-called, 9.5 scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: About that Government Takeover of the Student Loan Business &#8230; &#171; Donald Marron</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-2295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[About that Government Takeover of the Student Loan Business &#8230; &#171; Donald Marron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] That step raises some interesting questions about the costs of the current system (see this post), possible benefits of the current system (some colleges and universities appear to prefer working with private lenders), and the potential budget savings of cutting out the middle man (which appear to be large but somewhat overstated in official budget analyses). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That step raises some interesting questions about the costs of the current system (see this post), possible benefits of the current system (some colleges and universities appear to prefer working with private lenders), and the potential budget savings of cutting out the middle man (which appear to be large but somewhat overstated in official budget analyses). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama 'nationalizes' student loans - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obama 'nationalizes' student loans - Conservative Republican Discussion Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] program would reduce government spending, but not as much as traditional budget measures indicate.  More details        __________________ There is a war going on for your mind. If you are thinking, you are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] program would reduce government spending, but not as much as traditional budget measures indicate.  More details        __________________ There is a war going on for your mind. If you are thinking, you are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Simple Economics of Student Loan Crises</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Simple Economics of Student Loan Crises]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I threw in a third example of government intervention: the market for guaranteed student loans. As I mentioned a few weeks ago, the government has a major program in which it provides guarantees for private student loans. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The Simple Economics of Student Loan Crises &#171; Donald Marron</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Simple Economics of Student Loan Crises &#171; Donald Marron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I threw in a third example of government intervention: the market for guaranteed student loans. As I mentioned a few weeks ago, the government has a major program in which it provides guarantees for private student loans. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Evinx</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evinx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The overall problem is not in the numbers - should the Federal govt have a role in student loans? Everytime you create (expand) a federal govt program, you create the opportunity for politics, not economics, to drive decisions. You also create the opportunity for lobbyists to exert more influence over the process - and costs -- and what may have one time seemed like a good idea ends up being an economic disaster. Amtrak, Fannie + Freddie, Medicare, and so on. So the numbers are revealing but the underlying problem is never resolved and eventually, disaster strikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overall problem is not in the numbers &#8211; should the Federal govt have a role in student loans? Everytime you create (expand) a federal govt program, you create the opportunity for politics, not economics, to drive decisions. You also create the opportunity for lobbyists to exert more influence over the process &#8211; and costs &#8212; and what may have one time seemed like a good idea ends up being an economic disaster. Amtrak, Fannie + Freddie, Medicare, and so on. So the numbers are revealing but the underlying problem is never resolved and eventually, disaster strikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
		<link>http://dmarron.com/2009/07/30/the-budget-battle-over-student-loans/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are so many ways to get loan even with a bad credit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many ways to get loan even with a bad credit</p>
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